It’s so hard when you can see it coming, isn’t it?
Sheila December 29th, 2009 @ 6:51 am
Thanks for this series of comics. I’ve “helped” a few people close to me who weren’t ready to listen and it is sad and frustrating when I watch them travel a totally different path than the one they indicated wanting to travel. Now I have a gracious response for them as I am glad they are happy. Thanks for all you do.
Julie December 29th, 2009 @ 9:38 am
I remember when I was pregnant the first time I thought the idea of co-sleeping was irresponsible and stupid. I went to a LLL meeting because I planned to breastfeed while the baby was tiny and left thinking those people were crazy. I only knew the homeschoolers in my neighborhood who were socially deficient, had no healthy routines, and rarely combed their hair because they had nothing to get ready for in the morning.
I was happy to have the freedom to stay home with the baby for as long as I wanted to, but figured I’d go nuts sooner or later and need to get back into the work world at some point before the child started preschool.
I know that there are mainstream mamas out there on their “I told you so” mountain too, thinking see she should have just let the baby cry and she wouldn’t still have this five year old coming into her bed several nights a week. Thinking: if she had that kid in daycare they’d be on a better routine and the baby would have learned to take a bottle once in a while and then maybe she wouldn’t have nursed the kid for 3 and a half years.. ew..
We just don’t realize what our family’s needs are until that baby comes along. Now that I’ve been through it, I’m always shocked to find out who started supplementing and ultimately weening early all because the pediatrician said the baby wasn’t gaining fast enough or because they couldn’t pump enough at work or just because it was “one more thing to deal with.” But I also shocked myself by nursing as long as I did, sleeping with my baby and getting addicted to LLL and the Cow Goddess, and most of all, pretty much throwing my career out the window to be with this one little human being. Nothing ever changed about my feelings toward medical interventions.. I’ve always taken issue with this, but it’s such a delicate issue because by the time you are feeling rage for what happened to the mom, she’s already sliced open and the doc’s not there to yell at.. so what can you say or do but be supportive?
I go to church with an OB, nice lady, who’s preformed C-sections on at least two of my friends… I like her, but we don’t talk much.
MeganK December 29th, 2009 @ 11:22 am
What’s funny to me about this series is I was kind of the opposite. I always intended to breastfeed because my mom did, but certainly not past a year, and let’s not even talk about all those other hippie crunchy ideas. It all started because of my husband; his parents left him and his brothers intact and when we started talking about kids, my husband expressed that it was very important to him that our sons, should we have any, not be circumcised. So I started doing research about it- and as you might expect the people who put out research against circumcision are also the people who have positive things to say about homebirth and attachment parenting and extended breastfeeding etc. It all made so much sense and sounded just… right. And even when our son was born we didn’t intend to bedshare… but it just felt right and so we fell into it and were both really happy spending the night cuddling with our baby. Not to mention how much more sleep we get when every time the baby wakes up and starts stirring he either gets an arm wrapped around him or a breast put in his mouth. (Or both.)
How I loathe that comment. Really, they mean to say “you must sit around and do nothing all day, I’m not cut out for that because I am more interesting.” Can you imagine the reverse of this comment. “I’d go crazy if I abandoned my child to be cared for by strangers all day, no offense.” That would never be accepted with grace, and we’d never say it (to them). It’s callous and passive aggressive.
victoria January 4th, 2010 @ 12:32 pm
Hmmmm…very interesting responses ladies! I enjoyed reading them as much as i enjoyed the comics.
I have quit “telling” women anything about birth. They become so offended that I would even suggest that they educate themselves and decide what is best for them and their babies.
I am sick to death of hearing the comment ” I just want what is best for my baby and Dr so-in-so has 25 yrs of experience, so he/she will know what is best”.
By the time “these women” get pregnant, it is almost always too late. We need to start when our girls are babies. I see it all the time; a child has a temper tantrum because they want fishy crackers, or something, and they scream ” I am angry because I want crackers and you won’t give them to me!”. Then what do the parents do? They get angry and give the kid a time out or a spanking or something. Not once acknowledging the fact the child expressed exactly what they were feeling, and why. Instead it’s disciplined right out of them!it’s called “back talk” ad it is highly frowned upon.
Then, when these people are adults, “we” come along and tell them that they are in charge of their own lives and that they should make there own decisions regarding what is best for them. To top it all off, we tell them to ignore what the authority figure in the white coat with all of the degrees is telling them, and we’re saying “Do what feels right.” well, to these women who have never been encouraged to express their thoughts and feelings, being told what to do and why to do it, probably IS what feels right!
December 29th, 2009 @ 2:14 am
I’ve heard that too many times.
December 29th, 2009 @ 4:17 am
It’s so hard when you can see it coming, isn’t it?
December 29th, 2009 @ 6:51 am
Thanks for this series of comics. I’ve “helped” a few people close to me who weren’t ready to listen and it is sad and frustrating when I watch them travel a totally different path than the one they indicated wanting to travel. Now I have a gracious response for them as I am glad they are happy. Thanks for all you do.
December 29th, 2009 @ 9:38 am
I remember when I was pregnant the first time I thought the idea of co-sleeping was irresponsible and stupid. I went to a LLL meeting because I planned to breastfeed while the baby was tiny and left thinking those people were crazy. I only knew the homeschoolers in my neighborhood who were socially deficient, had no healthy routines, and rarely combed their hair because they had nothing to get ready for in the morning.
I was happy to have the freedom to stay home with the baby for as long as I wanted to, but figured I’d go nuts sooner or later and need to get back into the work world at some point before the child started preschool.
I know that there are mainstream mamas out there on their “I told you so” mountain too, thinking see she should have just let the baby cry and she wouldn’t still have this five year old coming into her bed several nights a week. Thinking: if she had that kid in daycare they’d be on a better routine and the baby would have learned to take a bottle once in a while and then maybe she wouldn’t have nursed the kid for 3 and a half years.. ew..
We just don’t realize what our family’s needs are until that baby comes along. Now that I’ve been through it, I’m always shocked to find out who started supplementing and ultimately weening early all because the pediatrician said the baby wasn’t gaining fast enough or because they couldn’t pump enough at work or just because it was “one more thing to deal with.” But I also shocked myself by nursing as long as I did, sleeping with my baby and getting addicted to LLL and the Cow Goddess, and most of all, pretty much throwing my career out the window to be with this one little human being. Nothing ever changed about my feelings toward medical interventions.. I’ve always taken issue with this, but it’s such a delicate issue because by the time you are feeling rage for what happened to the mom, she’s already sliced open and the doc’s not there to yell at.. so what can you say or do but be supportive?
I go to church with an OB, nice lady, who’s preformed C-sections on at least two of my friends… I like her, but we don’t talk much.
December 29th, 2009 @ 11:22 am
What’s funny to me about this series is I was kind of the opposite. I always intended to breastfeed because my mom did, but certainly not past a year, and let’s not even talk about all those other hippie crunchy ideas. It all started because of my husband; his parents left him and his brothers intact and when we started talking about kids, my husband expressed that it was very important to him that our sons, should we have any, not be circumcised. So I started doing research about it- and as you might expect the people who put out research against circumcision are also the people who have positive things to say about homebirth and attachment parenting and extended breastfeeding etc. It all made so much sense and sounded just… right. And even when our son was born we didn’t intend to bedshare… but it just felt right and so we fell into it and were both really happy spending the night cuddling with our baby. Not to mention how much more sleep we get when every time the baby wakes up and starts stirring he either gets an arm wrapped around him or a breast put in his mouth. (Or both.)
January 2nd, 2010 @ 8:27 pm
How I loathe that comment. Really, they mean to say “you must sit around and do nothing all day, I’m not cut out for that because I am more interesting.” Can you imagine the reverse of this comment. “I’d go crazy if I abandoned my child to be cared for by strangers all day, no offense.” That would never be accepted with grace, and we’d never say it (to them). It’s callous and passive aggressive.
January 4th, 2010 @ 12:32 pm
Hmmmm…very interesting responses ladies! I enjoyed reading them as much as i enjoyed the comics.
I have quit “telling” women anything about birth. They become so offended that I would even suggest that they educate themselves and decide what is best for them and their babies.
I am sick to death of hearing the comment ” I just want what is best for my baby and Dr so-in-so has 25 yrs of experience, so he/she will know what is best”.
By the time “these women” get pregnant, it is almost always too late. We need to start when our girls are babies. I see it all the time; a child has a temper tantrum because they want fishy crackers, or something, and they scream ” I am angry because I want crackers and you won’t give them to me!”. Then what do the parents do? They get angry and give the kid a time out or a spanking or something. Not once acknowledging the fact the child expressed exactly what they were feeling, and why. Instead it’s disciplined right out of them!it’s called “back talk” ad it is highly frowned upon.
Then, when these people are adults, “we” come along and tell them that they are in charge of their own lives and that they should make there own decisions regarding what is best for them. To top it all off, we tell them to ignore what the authority figure in the white coat with all of the degrees is telling them, and we’re saying “Do what feels right.” well, to these women who have never been encouraged to express their thoughts and feelings, being told what to do and why to do it, probably IS what feels right!
January 4th, 2010 @ 2:49 pm
That’s a great point victoria!