Marginal Scientists Manipulate Science!
So, I had this idea in mind to replace all the words with other words, to get kind of mad-libby with these ’so-called’ papers and studies that sneeringly discuss breastfeeding (and what the heck, ANY of our mother issues, right?) And as I was mulling it, working it out in my head, Mark Morford wrote this excellent piece on Scientific Studies:
Study says many studies suck
Research shows we are far too drunk on stupid studies that tell us what research shows
Here’s a quote:
Look, I know. Studies rule. Studies are our cultural cocaine. We cannot get enough. I cite them all the time myself in this very column. Many studies are incredibly helpful and informative, and without the trillions of formal scientific studies we’ve enjoyed to date we would know precious little about everything from medicine to human behavior to how many orgasms a woman can have in a day (unlimited!) to the average number of erections a healthy male gets in his sleep (5.3!) and the exact number of times George W. Bush and his scabrous lizards lied to the nation so as to lead us into a disgusting and horrid war (935!) and, well, a million other Very Important Things.
And speaking of, here is a lovely, important, enlightening study that I would like to tell you about (thanks Jeanne!) I have a copy but I’m forbidden to share it…but here’s a bit: ‘As good as chocolate’ and ‘better than ice cream’: How toddler, and older, breastfeeders experience breastfeeding by Karleen D. Gribble
This study revealed that breastfeeding can be a time of intimacy between mother and child, with the child connecting with his/her mother by stroking her or talking with her during breastfeeds. Breastfeeding was also shown to be something that was integrated into daily life as children continued to play, watch television or read a book while breastfeeding. While the intimacy associated with breastfeeding often leads to it being described as a special time between mother and child (Dignam, 1995), it is evident that breastfeeding can also be very ordinary and not separated from other aspects of life. Further research to elucidate what activities mothers might be involved in while breastfeeding may provide a greater understanding of how mothers incorporate breastfeeding into their lives. The responses that children gave to questions about why they breastfed and what they feel like when they breastfeed validated maternal perceptions about why children breastfeed. Children said that they really liked breastfeeding, that it had a calming and relaxing impact on them and that when they breastfeed they feel close to their mother. Children also explicitly stated that they breastfed because they like the milk but their enjoyment of breastmilk can also be deduced from their descriptions of the taste of breastmilk. Many children compared breastmilk to a type of milk such as cows’ milk, rice milk, a flavoured milk or just plain milk and given that breastmilk is indeed a type of milk this is not unexpected. Many children also stated that breastmilk tasted like something sweet, for example, like a type of fruit, chocolate, sugar, cordial, jam, lollies or ice cream. They also compared the taste of breastmilk to a sweet food using phrases such as ‘better than ice cream’ or ‘as good as chocolate’ or indeed simply describing the milk as ‘sweet’. Again, this is not unexpected since breastmilk contains a relatively high concentration of the sugar, lactose (Emmett & Rogers, 1997). Some children compared the taste of breastmilk to foods that do not immediately appear to resemble characteristics of breastmilk such as cheese, peanut butter or ‘McDonalds’. However, a large proportion of the children described breastmilk as being yummy or nice or said that they like or love the taste and this may be the thread that combines all of the descriptions the children used. It appears that children like the taste of breastmilk and when asked to describe its flavour they compare it to a food they consider delicious. It is also worth noting that children’s descriptions of breastmilk can provide diagnostic information as the children of two mothers who had recently had mastitis described the milk as sometimes tasting ‘salty’ or ‘yucky’. Mastitis changes the flavour of milk by increasing the salt concentration and mothers sometimes report breast refusal as the first symptom of developing the condition. Mothers’ recall of conversations they had had with their children about breastfeeding provided insight into how children view breasts and breastfeeding. It appears that many of these long-termbreastfeeders saw the world through a lens where breastfeeding is normal and expected and where breasts are for breastfeeding. This view of breastfeeding may have arisen from children’s experience of breastfeeding themselves or from regularly seeing others breastfeed. This is in contrast to the view predominant in many developed countries where breasts are considered a sex organ (Dettwyler, 1995a; Stearns, 1999). The sexualisation of breasts has resulted in many, including children, believing that breastfeeding is an activity to be performed only in private (Russell, Richards, Jones, & Hoddinott, 2004; Stearns, 1999). The resultant stigma associated with breastfeeding in public remains a significant barrier to women successfully breastfeeding (Hannan et al., 2005; Li et al., 2004). It is likely that the breastfeeders in this study will assimilate the dominant culture’s sexualisation of breasts as they grow but perhaps they will also retain an acceptance of the nurturing role of breasts and carry this into adulthood and parenting….
Conclusions Despite the WHO/UNICEF breastfeeding duration recommendations, in developed countries, very few children are breastfed beyond infancy. The social pressure to wean early is an important factor preventing a greater incidence of long-term breastfeeding. Part of the pressure to wean stems from the common belief that breastfeeding is something that mothers somehow impose on their children. This study shows that, to the contrary, long-term breastfeeders actively seek breastfeeding from their mothers because they find it pleasurable and helpful in dealing with stress. An understanding of breastfeeding as experienced by children may aid in removal of the stigma associated with breastfeeding beyond infancy. Learning about breastfeeding via observation, discussion and role-play is common amongst long-term breastfeeders and further research is needed to elucidate the significance that this might have in the ability of girls to breastfeed their children when they themselves become mothers.
But of course, we (the enlightened mamas on this blog ;o) already know all of that didn’t we? This is the rare study, one with a hypothesis that maybe just maybe, the bonds between mother and child should be respected and nurtured and then seeks information to support that hypothesis.
Unfortunately the large proportion of studies right now- millions and billions of them- are hell–bent on showing that perhaps CIO is just fine (if the study is heavily manipulated), perchance formula is almost as good (ignore the warning labels, please!), maybe full-term breastfeeders are loony. These studies seem almost (dare I say?) worded to let the mainstream culture (and the super-independent lifestyle) off the hook. They’re piling on, trying to drown out the simple lifestyle choice of family, and things that you just KNOW to be true.
so I agree with Mark Morford:
This, then, is the danger: Despite the frequent inanity, despite the insulting silliness of much of the information, we’ve been led to believe that it is only through a relentless obsession with tiny, data-driven studies that we can obtain real knowledge, real understanding of what we’re about and how we should eat, sleep, screw, breathe.
As such, we risk perhaps the most vital and precious aspect of human understanding, our innate sense that everything is far, far more complicated and messy and juicy and fluidly interconnected, far more non-dissectible than we like to imagine, and in fact trying to dismember human experience into its drab components merely destroys the holistic integrity of the whole damnable circus.
Look at it this way: It’s a bit like touching your lover softly, carefully on the lips. It’s either a dry, mappable array of specific nerve endings and chemicals and saliva glands and swarms of bacteria and random synapses screaming their desperate need to procreate, or it’s, well, pure goddamn poetry. Study says: Your choice.
Yep, your choice.
Love,
Heather
(sleep deprived, I HOPE this made sense ;o) but man, that was a FUN birthday party!
The Musing is related to this Comic: Marginal Scientists!
and this Comic: scientists manipulate!
and this Musing: Parenting Culture Studies, huh?






Becci76 said,
February 7, 2008 @ 5:50 pm
I really love the “study” I read about how “breastfeeding does not seem to reduce the risk of obesity” and “breastfeeding” was defined as being breastfed for ONE WEEK! That’s like saying, geez, “I exercised for a WHOLE WEEK and still couldn’t lose that 50lbs!”–I mean, like, duh ;)!!!
Anyway, I wish people just “got it” like we do. Even my grandmother, who didn’t breastfeed any of her seven children for even a day tells everyone who has a baby “make sure you breastfeed, it’s the best and most natural thing”. She has realized that we have been very very wrong in trying to manipulate nature.
I am rambling! Lots of love!!!
Persephone said,
February 7, 2008 @ 7:49 pm
“Breastfeeding is something the mothers impose on their children”??? ROFL! Believe me, as the nursing mother of a two year old, I definitely do NOT impose it on her- in fact, there are times when I downright resent it. But there are the sweet tender times too, so I keep doing it. But impose on??? HEE HEE!
Becci76 said,
February 7, 2008 @ 9:35 pm
I know what you mean Persephone! Most of us don’t want to admit we could get that “oh man, now?” feeling, but it is natural and quite funny to think we would be “imposing” it on them. Aren’t bottle feeding mothers “imposing” the bottle on their babies? Why aren’t things like that said?
Oh my Gosh!!! She is imposing that bottle on that baby again! Shame on her for feeding it!
Good for you for keeping up nursing! Mine is now officially a “weaner”, as I am pregnant again and he hasn’t shown interest in months. I am so glad I remember the last time now, though. Toward the end I realized it may be over and made a conscious effort to “take note” of each time he did, I was so glad I remembered the last time. It was sweet! He climbed into my lap and latched on for about 15 seconds, looked up at me and smiled and then jumped down and ran off! It was too precious!
Sorry, total preggo sentimental hormones going on here. Most people I share that story off start looking at me funny when I say the words “climbed up” and “ran off”. I can read their minds, it is so funny. I have a hard time not giggling
K, nite all. Sorry for littering the blog
Julinda said,
February 8, 2008 @ 6:23 am
Love that article. Very well said.
My older son once said that breastfeeding put some of me inside him. (That helped him face the day without me as I went to work and he went to school.) He also said it recharged his love. He never commented on the flavor - with him, it was more about the love. And really, I feel the same.
amyphilo said,
February 8, 2008 @ 7:22 am
This is my all-time favorite “study” of studies, perhaps my favorite Hathor blog so far.
soulgasm said,
February 8, 2008 @ 8:11 am
Becci76, my grandmother fed all 5 of her kids on Carnation dry milk and Karo syrup (thats corn syrup).
but, when i exclusively breastfed my son for the first six months and he was always so big and developed so quickly, my grandmother always pointed out to everyone “That’s all her breastmilk! he’s never had anything else!” and was so proud.
my favorite part of breastfeeding and babywearing has always been the smiles and comments from little old ladies!
janaki said,
February 8, 2008 @ 5:29 pm
lol, you know there was a study done to show why pregnant women don’t tip over?
Becci76 said,
February 8, 2008 @ 8:55 pm
Janaki–really? I want to find that one. You have it or am I too gullible?
wiffersnapper said,
February 10, 2008 @ 4:20 pm
Being seven months pregnant and already feeling like a house (can I really have 10 weeks to go?!?) I’d be interested in knowing what IS keeping me mostly vertical- other than sheer force of will! (And then put a 28-pound toddler on one hip and things get REALLY interesting!)
I’ve found that many “older” folks really appreciate what we’re trying to do when we breastfeed and babywear- I can’t count the number of times that little old ladies would come up to me in public while I wore my firstborn and say, “I wish they’d had those carriers when I had my babies!” They could clearly see how comfy and content she was. And MY DAD, although he is totally uncomfortable with any sort of public nudity, was my biggest supporter while I breastfed. My mom would say, “Aren’t you going to wean her soon?” and my dad would say, “You take your time and do that whenever you and she are ready.”