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		<title>By: imommajen</title>
		<link>http://www.thecowgoddess.com/2007/11/12/do-you-do-birthweight-research/#comment-1983</link>
		<author>imommajen</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>My mom had 3 of her 4 children around the holidays (Nov 23, Nov 19, &#38; Dec. 21) &#38; each one of us was induced, although her dr had no qualms about saying it was to avoid his vacation or the holiday back in the 70's.  It seems amazing to me that drs are still doing this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My mom had 3 of her 4 children around the holidays (Nov 23, Nov 19, &amp; Dec. 21) &amp; each one of us was induced, although her dr had no qualms about saying it was to avoid his vacation or the holiday back in the 70&#8217;s.  It seems amazing to me that drs are still doing this!</p>
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		<title>By: Julinda</title>
		<link>http://www.thecowgoddess.com/2007/11/12/do-you-do-birthweight-research/#comment-1984</link>
		<author>Julinda</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I think a lot of doctors are still blunt enough to say it's to avoid the holidays.  And a lot of moms probably ask for the same reason.  I've also known of moms asking to be induced just to be able to "plan" rather than wait to go into labor naturally.

I was induced w/both my kids for other reasons, and although I have nothing to compare it to, I think it makes labor more painful and is harder on the baby as well.

Julinda</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a lot of doctors are still blunt enough to say it&#8217;s to avoid the holidays.  And a lot of moms probably ask for the same reason.  I&#8217;ve also known of moms asking to be induced just to be able to &#8220;plan&#8221; rather than wait to go into labor naturally.</p>
<p>I was induced w/both my kids for other reasons, and although I have nothing to compare it to, I think it makes labor more painful and is harder on the baby as well.</p>
<p>Julinda</p>
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		<title>By: HLA</title>
		<link>http://www.thecowgoddess.com/2007/11/12/do-you-do-birthweight-research/#comment-1985</link>
		<author>HLA</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Induction did make labor more painful for me.  First son was 8 1/2 lbs; first contraction thru delivery was 12 hours and drug free.  Second son was 7 1/2 lbs, induction to delivery was 9 hours and I broke down and requested epidural at 8 1/2 hours after being told I was barely 7 centimeters, which I now question.  They induced because I noticed a dramatic decrease in movement the night before (which was the assumed due date).  That day a non-stress test showed pleny of movement (I think he changed position and he was just kicking a less sensative area).  Even though the test showed good movement, the tech said 'the sonogram might have shown low fluid levels, but she could not be certain since she rarely did sonograms'.  To this day I am disgusted with myself for not getting a second opinion.

Babies belong in the womb...except in rare circumstances it is the healthies place for them.  And I always tell other Mommas...the womb is the easiest place for the Momma!  No diapers, no sibling rivalry, no univited guests!  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Induction did make labor more painful for me.  First son was 8 1/2 lbs; first contraction thru delivery was 12 hours and drug free.  Second son was 7 1/2 lbs, induction to delivery was 9 hours and I broke down and requested epidural at 8 1/2 hours after being told I was barely 7 centimeters, which I now question.  They induced because I noticed a dramatic decrease in movement the night before (which was the assumed due date).  That day a non-stress test showed pleny of movement (I think he changed position and he was just kicking a less sensative area).  Even though the test showed good movement, the tech said &#8216;the sonogram might have shown low fluid levels, but she could not be certain since she rarely did sonograms&#8217;.  To this day I am disgusted with myself for not getting a second opinion.</p>
<p>Babies belong in the womb&#8230;except in rare circumstances it is the healthies place for them.  And I always tell other Mommas&#8230;the womb is the easiest place for the Momma!  No diapers, no sibling rivalry, no univited guests!  <img src='http://www.thecowgoddess.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: mama</title>
		<link>http://www.thecowgoddess.com/2007/11/12/do-you-do-birthweight-research/#comment-1987</link>
		<author>mama</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I think they should give due month instead.  Maybe this way, Dr. would be less ready to induce.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think they should give due month instead.  Maybe this way, Dr. would be less ready to induce.</p>
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		<title>By: ChuraMama</title>
		<link>http://www.thecowgoddess.com/2007/11/12/do-you-do-birthweight-research/#comment-1989</link>
		<author>ChuraMama</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>My dear friend had a healthy baby girl at home on Sunday.  She was born at 41w2d and weighed in at 10lbs9oz.  Too big?  Thank goddess my friend had wonderful midwives for her care!  Her body knew just what to do!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My dear friend had a healthy baby girl at home on Sunday.  She was born at 41w2d and weighed in at 10lbs9oz.  Too big?  Thank goddess my friend had wonderful midwives for her care!  Her body knew just what to do!</p>
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		<title>By: janaki</title>
		<link>http://www.thecowgoddess.com/2007/11/12/do-you-do-birthweight-research/#comment-1990</link>
		<author>janaki</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I was induced 3 weeks early because supposedly my daughter's heartrate was slowing down during contractions 3 times (actually, the monitor band slipped down... 3 times.  Coincidence?)  So anyway, yes, it did make the contractions A LOT worse and I did need an epidural (well, maybe I didn't need it... but at the time it sure as hell felt like I did!)  In any case, she was 6 lbs. 4 oz. and jaundice.  She probably would've never been jaundice if we had just let her go full term, but oh well, she's healthy now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was induced 3 weeks early because supposedly my daughter&#8217;s heartrate was slowing down during contractions 3 times (actually, the monitor band slipped down&#8230; 3 times.  Coincidence?)  So anyway, yes, it did make the contractions A LOT worse and I did need an epidural (well, maybe I didn&#8217;t need it&#8230; but at the time it sure as hell felt like I did!)  In any case, she was 6 lbs. 4 oz. and jaundice.  She probably would&#8217;ve never been jaundice if we had just let her go full term, but oh well, she&#8217;s healthy now!</p>
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		<title>By: Slingnmom</title>
		<link>http://www.thecowgoddess.com/2007/11/12/do-you-do-birthweight-research/#comment-1991</link>
		<author>Slingnmom</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 00:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>#1 - scheduled c/s 1 wk early - frank breech presentation, was told there wasn't enough fluid for the baby to turn into the "proper" position - 9lbs 2oz

#2 - hospital VBAC - 37 weeks AROM because I was contracting regularly and was dilated to a 5 at my Dr. appointment that same day. 7lbs 10oz - 4hr L&#38;D

#3 home waterbirth - 37 weeks - 9lbs 8oz - 1hr 40min L&#38;D

#4 unassisted homebirth - 37 weeks - 9lbs - 3hr L&#38;D

#5  Unassisted waterbirth - 38 weeks - 7lbs 15oz - was dilated to 10 for a couple of days without any labor, due to a horrible chronic cough at the time. - 1hr 30min L&#38;D

#6 Unassisted waterbirth - 37 weeks - 10lbs 9oz - 45min L&#38;D

#7 Unassisted waterbirth 38 weeks - 7lbs 15oz - 35min L&#38;D

I just cook mine fast and big, LOL no signs of GD either.  I think it would be a very interesting study to do though. I remember a documentary that was done profiling several pregnant mother's. One needed to be induced so the mom could get medical treatment for something (I think it was cancer). They took her baby via c/s at 34 weeks and the baby already weighed 10+ lbs at birth. My jaw dropped! She did have GD but it didn't sound like it was managed well.

I also find it odd for some doctores to allow pre-term vaginal deliveries, while others will automatically do a c/s because "it'll cause brain swelling and damange if they don't" But studies have shown that even termed babies have some brain swelling and that it's just part of the process. So I see it as just another excuse.

I am always reminded of those identical Dionnes quints Born May 28, 1934 in Ontario, Canada at home and kept warm in the oven. I believe they were born at 26 or 28 weeks and all survived without a c/s, without ventilators, IV's and more. I'm sure it was scary as all get out but it really shows how strong infants are and can be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#1 - scheduled c/s 1 wk early - frank breech presentation, was told there wasn&#8217;t enough fluid for the baby to turn into the &#8220;proper&#8221; position - 9lbs 2oz</p>
<p>#2 - hospital VBAC - 37 weeks AROM because I was contracting regularly and was dilated to a 5 at my Dr. appointment that same day. 7lbs 10oz - 4hr L&amp;D</p>
<p>#3 home waterbirth - 37 weeks - 9lbs 8oz - 1hr 40min L&amp;D</p>
<p>#4 unassisted homebirth - 37 weeks - 9lbs - 3hr L&amp;D</p>
<p>#5  Unassisted waterbirth - 38 weeks - 7lbs 15oz - was dilated to 10 for a couple of days without any labor, due to a horrible chronic cough at the time. - 1hr 30min L&amp;D</p>
<p>#6 Unassisted waterbirth - 37 weeks - 10lbs 9oz - 45min L&amp;D</p>
<p>#7 Unassisted waterbirth 38 weeks - 7lbs 15oz - 35min L&amp;D</p>
<p>I just cook mine fast and big, LOL no signs of GD either.  I think it would be a very interesting study to do though. I remember a documentary that was done profiling several pregnant mother&#8217;s. One needed to be induced so the mom could get medical treatment for something (I think it was cancer). They took her baby via c/s at 34 weeks and the baby already weighed 10+ lbs at birth. My jaw dropped! She did have GD but it didn&#8217;t sound like it was managed well.</p>
<p>I also find it odd for some doctores to allow pre-term vaginal deliveries, while others will automatically do a c/s because &#8220;it&#8217;ll cause brain swelling and damange if they don&#8217;t&#8221; But studies have shown that even termed babies have some brain swelling and that it&#8217;s just part of the process. So I see it as just another excuse.</p>
<p>I am always reminded of those identical Dionnes quints Born May 28, 1934 in Ontario, Canada at home and kept warm in the oven. I believe they were born at 26 or 28 weeks and all survived without a c/s, without ventilators, IV&#8217;s and more. I&#8217;m sure it was scary as all get out but it really shows how strong infants are and can be.</p>
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		<title>By: frontierpsychiatrist</title>
		<link>http://www.thecowgoddess.com/2007/11/12/do-you-do-birthweight-research/#comment-1992</link>
		<author>frontierpsychiatrist</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 06:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm very small (5' tall, 105 lbs) and my DD was 10lbs on the dot (UC). I figure if a baby that size can pass through my tiny hips (without tearing, thank you very much), then the whole "big baby" stuff is just a bunch of BS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m very small (5&#8242; tall, 105 lbs) and my DD was 10lbs on the dot (UC). I figure if a baby that size can pass through my tiny hips (without tearing, thank you very much), then the whole &#8220;big baby&#8221; stuff is just a bunch of BS.</p>
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		<title>By: frontierpsychiatrist</title>
		<link>http://www.thecowgoddess.com/2007/11/12/do-you-do-birthweight-research/#comment-1993</link>
		<author>frontierpsychiatrist</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 07:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>oh, and she was born 2 days after thanksgiving ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, and she was born 2 days after thanksgiving <img src='http://www.thecowgoddess.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Kyara</title>
		<link>http://www.thecowgoddess.com/2007/11/12/do-you-do-birthweight-research/#comment-1994</link>
		<author>Kyara</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 07:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>How about planning pregnancies instead of births?

Sorry hunny, can't have sex in February or March, since we don't want me going into labor on a holiday. Heck, let's tack on January and April too.

At least it wouldn't cut into the precious OB Dr's vacation time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about planning pregnancies instead of births?</p>
<p>Sorry hunny, can&#8217;t have sex in February or March, since we don&#8217;t want me going into labor on a holiday. Heck, let&#8217;s tack on January and April too.</p>
<p>At least it wouldn&#8217;t cut into the precious OB Dr&#8217;s vacation time.</p>
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		<title>By: typeogirl999</title>
		<link>http://www.thecowgoddess.com/2007/11/12/do-you-do-birthweight-research/#comment-1995</link>
		<author>typeogirl999</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 09:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Ha! I totally agree! There actually is a lot of research on the subject, and there are a lot of findings that induced labors have gone up in recent years, and it does seem to spike before a doctor's vacation. But you know what's being done about it? Nothing! There's no law against this practice, and no one is policing the doctors on it. So it's gonna keep happening until the whole country opens their eyes to it and start calling their doctors on it!

It happened to me. My last pregnancy, everything was normal, and I went to 42 weeks, and was dilated 3 cm for 2 weeks with no real contractions. The doctor said I'd better get induced or my baby might get too big. After poking around on my belly for a few minutes, he confidently said, "Yep, feels like he's already gonna be over 8 lbs, probably closer to 9. How does next Friday sound for you?" 

So I went in to be induced in the evening, they put the cervix-relaxing cream on there and said they'd start me on the Pitocin in the morning and to just go to bed. Within 2 hrs I was in full-blown labor, and the nurse didn't believe me at first! She said, "You haven't even started the Pitocin yet! You can't be in labor!" Meanwhile I'm clutching my husband's hand and screaming as another contraction zags across the monitor, never mind I've been in labor before and know what it feels like. 

I wanted an epidural (silly, naive old me), and they got the anesthesiologist in and was trying to put it in, when I said, "Forget it! There's no time, he's coming out right now!" Again, they didn't believe me. I said, "Look down, idiot" to the nurse, and sure enough, she could see my son's hair. I pushed probably 3 or 4 times and the doctor came in just in time to catch the baby. 

Guess how much he weighed??? A healthy 7 lbs 14 oz. I would not say that's too big, would you? His Apgar score was only a 6 (of 10) and was blue at first because he was pushed out so quickly. He soon pinkened up though and is healthy (but a string-bean), but I think labor would have been easier for both of us if I had just let mother nature take it's course. And I wonder if they hadn't miscalculated my due date to begin with, and I was actually 2 weeks early instead of 2 weeks late. 

BTW, the doctor DID go on vacation soon after that... Coincidence???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha! I totally agree! There actually is a lot of research on the subject, and there are a lot of findings that induced labors have gone up in recent years, and it does seem to spike before a doctor&#8217;s vacation. But you know what&#8217;s being done about it? Nothing! There&#8217;s no law against this practice, and no one is policing the doctors on it. So it&#8217;s gonna keep happening until the whole country opens their eyes to it and start calling their doctors on it!</p>
<p>It happened to me. My last pregnancy, everything was normal, and I went to 42 weeks, and was dilated 3 cm for 2 weeks with no real contractions. The doctor said I&#8217;d better get induced or my baby might get too big. After poking around on my belly for a few minutes, he confidently said, &#8220;Yep, feels like he&#8217;s already gonna be over 8 lbs, probably closer to 9. How does next Friday sound for you?&#8221; </p>
<p>So I went in to be induced in the evening, they put the cervix-relaxing cream on there and said they&#8217;d start me on the Pitocin in the morning and to just go to bed. Within 2 hrs I was in full-blown labor, and the nurse didn&#8217;t believe me at first! She said, &#8220;You haven&#8217;t even started the Pitocin yet! You can&#8217;t be in labor!&#8221; Meanwhile I&#8217;m clutching my husband&#8217;s hand and screaming as another contraction zags across the monitor, never mind I&#8217;ve been in labor before and know what it feels like. </p>
<p>I wanted an epidural (silly, naive old me), and they got the anesthesiologist in and was trying to put it in, when I said, &#8220;Forget it! There&#8217;s no time, he&#8217;s coming out right now!&#8221; Again, they didn&#8217;t believe me. I said, &#8220;Look down, idiot&#8221; to the nurse, and sure enough, she could see my son&#8217;s hair. I pushed probably 3 or 4 times and the doctor came in just in time to catch the baby. </p>
<p>Guess how much he weighed??? A healthy 7 lbs 14 oz. I would not say that&#8217;s too big, would you? His Apgar score was only a 6 (of 10) and was blue at first because he was pushed out so quickly. He soon pinkened up though and is healthy (but a string-bean), but I think labor would have been easier for both of us if I had just let mother nature take it&#8217;s course. And I wonder if they hadn&#8217;t miscalculated my due date to begin with, and I was actually 2 weeks early instead of 2 weeks late. </p>
<p>BTW, the doctor DID go on vacation soon after that&#8230; Coincidence???</p>
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		<title>By: nicunurse04</title>
		<link>http://www.thecowgoddess.com/2007/11/12/do-you-do-birthweight-research/#comment-1997</link>
		<author>nicunurse04</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>So, just one day after I read your latest post then I see this story while purusing my local news website.

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=health&#38;id=5760037</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, just one day after I read your latest post then I see this story while purusing my local news website.</p>
<p><a href="http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=health&amp;id=5760037" rel="nofollow">http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=health&amp;id=5760037</a></p>
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		<title>By: BJ</title>
		<link>http://www.thecowgoddess.com/2007/11/12/do-you-do-birthweight-research/#comment-1998</link>
		<author>BJ</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Out of my mom's four kids, I was the only one not induced, and the only one born on a holiday. Also the longest labor (I took six hours, my siblings took between two and four.) Go figure.

But I don't think doctors know what the hell they are doing, anyway. They knew my sister's first baby was big in terms of weight (10 pounds 4 ounces), but despite having ultrasounds they never tried to estimate the size of his head. That turned out to be the big part, and of course he got stuck at a point when it was too late to push him back in and intervene surgically. TWENTY MINUTES with the vacuum forceps, and poor boy comes out to an Apgar of 3 with a misshapen head. Throughout the whole thing, though, my sister didn't tear! No episiotomy, either. So much for technology. (Baby is fine now.)

Second baby my sister chose a C section because of what happened the first time. This baby weighed more (10 pounds 6 ounces) and his head was big, too. Again, they only knew that after the baby was born.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Out of my mom&#8217;s four kids, I was the only one not induced, and the only one born on a holiday. Also the longest labor (I took six hours, my siblings took between two and four.) Go figure.</p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t think doctors know what the hell they are doing, anyway. They knew my sister&#8217;s first baby was big in terms of weight (10 pounds 4 ounces), but despite having ultrasounds they never tried to estimate the size of his head. That turned out to be the big part, and of course he got stuck at a point when it was too late to push him back in and intervene surgically. TWENTY MINUTES with the vacuum forceps, and poor boy comes out to an Apgar of 3 with a misshapen head. Throughout the whole thing, though, my sister didn&#8217;t tear! No episiotomy, either. So much for technology. (Baby is fine now.)</p>
<p>Second baby my sister chose a C section because of what happened the first time. This baby weighed more (10 pounds 6 ounces) and his head was big, too. Again, they only knew that after the baby was born.</p>
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		<title>By: Melissa</title>
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		<author>Melissa</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I wasn't induced and I had a full term hospital birth (if there is a next time I want do a water birthing center). I am 5', 100 lbs. and my daughter was 6 lbs 14 oz, perfect for me (her daddy is 6' - does that ever matter?). She is a skinny little thing but LOOOOONG.

The hospital here (Portland, OR) has what I consider to be a unique approach. If you want to you can have all your prenatal checkups done at a midwifery clinic. You rotate through all their midwives so you are sure to know everyone there and when your time comes, whoever happens to be on duty that day delivers your baby. This way you don't have to worry about vacations or holidays and you are familiar with the woman who assists you. I really liked this approach and was happy with my care and treatment. The only drawback I could find was that I didn't develop a really close relationship with my midwife (though I liked them all). But then again, some women who have only one don't either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t induced and I had a full term hospital birth (if there is a next time I want do a water birthing center). I am 5&#8242;, 100 lbs. and my daughter was 6 lbs 14 oz, perfect for me (her daddy is 6&#8242; - does that ever matter?). She is a skinny little thing but LOOOOONG.</p>
<p>The hospital here (Portland, OR) has what I consider to be a unique approach. If you want to you can have all your prenatal checkups done at a midwifery clinic. You rotate through all their midwives so you are sure to know everyone there and when your time comes, whoever happens to be on duty that day delivers your baby. This way you don&#8217;t have to worry about vacations or holidays and you are familiar with the woman who assists you. I really liked this approach and was happy with my care and treatment. The only drawback I could find was that I didn&#8217;t develop a really close relationship with my midwife (though I liked them all). But then again, some women who have only one don&#8217;t either.</p>
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		<title>By: wiffersnapper</title>
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		<author>wiffersnapper</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 00:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>About three weeks before I was due, my midwife told me that she thought I was having a 7-8 pound baby. My DD was born 12 days "early", but was 5 lb 7 oz. So, she apparently lost some weight somewhere in there. I'm only 5'2" and 120 lbs, and they were concerned because she was "small". I have to wonder what kind of baby they thought a woman my size would create? I know that I was only 6 lb 4 oz myself, and I was full term!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About three weeks before I was due, my midwife told me that she thought I was having a 7-8 pound baby. My DD was born 12 days &#8220;early&#8221;, but was 5 lb 7 oz. So, she apparently lost some weight somewhere in there. I&#8217;m only 5&#8242;2&#8243; and 120 lbs, and they were concerned because she was &#8220;small&#8221;. I have to wonder what kind of baby they thought a woman my size would create? I know that I was only 6 lb 4 oz myself, and I was full term!</p>
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		<title>By: amyphilo</title>
		<link>http://www.thecowgoddess.com/2007/11/12/do-you-do-birthweight-research/#comment-2004</link>
		<author>amyphilo</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Dating a pregnancy is a funny thing. With my first I had charted my cycle with a thermometer and knew exactly which day I ovulated / conceived. This was day 26 of my cycle. The sono techs NEVER believed that I knew what I was talking about when I told them how many weeks pregnant I was and the date of my last menstrual period. Then they did the sono and figured out I was not lying, my baby was a week or two younger than they thought. I guess it's good that we knew that so they wouldn't have induced me any earlier. I had an induction with my first (elective although I was worried about the baby because I couldn't feel him moving very much). It was incredibly painful. Second was a homebirth and it was also painful though I think it was better for the most part than the induction. No tearing, no episiotomy, no drug wipeout. I was full term, 2 days before 40 weeks and he was 9 lbs. 15 oz. Way too big for an OB to cope with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dating a pregnancy is a funny thing. With my first I had charted my cycle with a thermometer and knew exactly which day I ovulated / conceived. This was day 26 of my cycle. The sono techs NEVER believed that I knew what I was talking about when I told them how many weeks pregnant I was and the date of my last menstrual period. Then they did the sono and figured out I was not lying, my baby was a week or two younger than they thought. I guess it&#8217;s good that we knew that so they wouldn&#8217;t have induced me any earlier. I had an induction with my first (elective although I was worried about the baby because I couldn&#8217;t feel him moving very much). It was incredibly painful. Second was a homebirth and it was also painful though I think it was better for the most part than the induction. No tearing, no episiotomy, no drug wipeout. I was full term, 2 days before 40 weeks and he was 9 lbs. 15 oz. Way too big for an OB to cope with.</p>
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		<title>By: amyphilo</title>
		<link>http://www.thecowgoddess.com/2007/11/12/do-you-do-birthweight-research/#comment-2005</link>
		<author>amyphilo</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>by the way with the first I had just about every drug you can get and a huge episiotomy. Epidural worked way too "well. " Nearly killed us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>by the way with the first I had just about every drug you can get and a huge episiotomy. Epidural worked way too &#8220;well. &#8221; Nearly killed us.</p>
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		<title>By: Lyonside</title>
		<link>http://www.thecowgoddess.com/2007/11/12/do-you-do-birthweight-research/#comment-2006</link>
		<author>Lyonside</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 17:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I've seen a mixed bag among my friends - several friends delivered pretty much right on time and labor started naturally (babies were full-term), and another friend whose labor started when she went into allergic shock (she already had GD, and an undetermined due date because her periods were irregular before conception), and because of her health they decided to do a C-section. 

When I had my daughter, I was all set to let nature take its course. That led to me being 42 weeks pregnant (unlike most of my friends, I knew when this baby started, or at least I can tie it down to a 48 hour timeframe based on ovulation). After a lot of shlepping back and forth to the hospital, they told me that the baby was FINE, right position, tons of movement, good heartbeat, etc. but I was feeling like crap. I finally agreed to be induced, which took a while (we joked that my daughter was like a trust fund baby in Maui, who didn't want to come out of the whirlpool). 

Problem - turns out my baby had passed meconium, and not during labor, either - she'd been "marinating" for possibly weeks and had it deep in her lungs. 

Much as I would have preferred a natural labor and delivery, I'm worried about the next baby - if I'm very sure about the gestational age, what will I do when I get close to that due date?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen a mixed bag among my friends - several friends delivered pretty much right on time and labor started naturally (babies were full-term), and another friend whose labor started when she went into allergic shock (she already had GD, and an undetermined due date because her periods were irregular before conception), and because of her health they decided to do a C-section. </p>
<p>When I had my daughter, I was all set to let nature take its course. That led to me being 42 weeks pregnant (unlike most of my friends, I knew when this baby started, or at least I can tie it down to a 48 hour timeframe based on ovulation). After a lot of shlepping back and forth to the hospital, they told me that the baby was FINE, right position, tons of movement, good heartbeat, etc. but I was feeling like crap. I finally agreed to be induced, which took a while (we joked that my daughter was like a trust fund baby in Maui, who didn&#8217;t want to come out of the whirlpool). </p>
<p>Problem - turns out my baby had passed meconium, and not during labor, either - she&#8217;d been &#8220;marinating&#8221; for possibly weeks and had it deep in her lungs. </p>
<p>Much as I would have preferred a natural labor and delivery, I&#8217;m worried about the next baby - if I&#8217;m very sure about the gestational age, what will I do when I get close to that due date?</p>
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		<title>By: kriekle</title>
		<link>http://www.thecowgoddess.com/2007/11/12/do-you-do-birthweight-research/#comment-2008</link>
		<author>kriekle</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I had to laugh when I read the comment about planning your pregnancies rather than your deliveries. I actually do that! I work in a small family business as a tax preparer. I am not allowed to have babies due January through April. Therefore, there are months during the year where if there is even the slightest chance I might be fertile, sorry hun, no fun tonight. The plus side of my schedule and workplace, though, is that if I have a baby late in the year (like my last one who was born Dec 22, 2004), I just take the baby to work with me in a sling. My clients loved it! Amyphilo, that baby was like yours. I didn't ovulate until at least day 30 (we're still not entirely certain of the exact timing). Fortunately, both my family doc and my midwife took my word for it, and I never had a sonogram and never had to argue about my due time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had to laugh when I read the comment about planning your pregnancies rather than your deliveries. I actually do that! I work in a small family business as a tax preparer. I am not allowed to have babies due January through April. Therefore, there are months during the year where if there is even the slightest chance I might be fertile, sorry hun, no fun tonight. The plus side of my schedule and workplace, though, is that if I have a baby late in the year (like my last one who was born Dec 22, 2004), I just take the baby to work with me in a sling. My clients loved it! Amyphilo, that baby was like yours. I didn&#8217;t ovulate until at least day 30 (we&#8217;re still not entirely certain of the exact timing). Fortunately, both my family doc and my midwife took my word for it, and I never had a sonogram and never had to argue about my due time.</p>
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		<title>By: Leakyboobs</title>
		<link>http://www.thecowgoddess.com/2007/11/12/do-you-do-birthweight-research/#comment-2011</link>
		<author>Leakyboobs</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 06:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>No inductions--

#1, 42w 3d, 8lbs 11oz 
#2, 36w 5d, 7lbs 9oz
#3, 39w 6d, 9lbs 2oz

My kids like to throw the curve.  LOL  Love the question, "Do your babies come early or late?"  Uhh, I think, yes.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No inductions&#8211;</p>
<p>#1, 42w 3d, 8lbs 11oz<br />
#2, 36w 5d, 7lbs 9oz<br />
#3, 39w 6d, 9lbs 2oz</p>
<p>My kids like to throw the curve.  LOL  Love the question, &#8220;Do your babies come early or late?&#8221;  Uhh, I think, yes.  <img src='http://www.thecowgoddess.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Slingnmom</title>
		<link>http://www.thecowgoddess.com/2007/11/12/do-you-do-birthweight-research/#comment-2015</link>
		<author>Slingnmom</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>"Do your babies come early or late?"

Well for natural birther's babies come on time and when ready. Dates are arbitrary for the homebirther. 

For hospital birthers then there is the "due date" or "expiration date", and "over due date". Although babies rarely are allowed to go "over that due date". That date is one that changes with repeat u/s scans as "they" guess as to the day the baby will be "done" like the baby knows when it will actually emerge. People forget that these babies don't come with calendars! They don't know what day it is even if you told them! All they know is that they are not "done" if nature hasn't told them they are done. Nature is what it is and does things on it's own time table. 

Taking a baby from it's womb for any other reason other than "it's really time as labor has begun" doesn't need to leave that womb! Big babies is a myth thought up by doctors. Small pelvies is another myth thought up by doctors to manipulate a natual birth and to make your birth sound scary and medical. 

Birth is not scary when you understand it and take the time to learn about it from your peers who have BTDT as well as any other logical resource.

Babies just don't normally come early or late unless a doctor is involved. (*yes there are exceptions)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Do your babies come early or late?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well for natural birther&#8217;s babies come on time and when ready. Dates are arbitrary for the homebirther. </p>
<p>For hospital birthers then there is the &#8220;due date&#8221; or &#8220;expiration date&#8221;, and &#8220;over due date&#8221;. Although babies rarely are allowed to go &#8220;over that due date&#8221;. That date is one that changes with repeat u/s scans as &#8220;they&#8221; guess as to the day the baby will be &#8220;done&#8221; like the baby knows when it will actually emerge. People forget that these babies don&#8217;t come with calendars! They don&#8217;t know what day it is even if you told them! All they know is that they are not &#8220;done&#8221; if nature hasn&#8217;t told them they are done. Nature is what it is and does things on it&#8217;s own time table. </p>
<p>Taking a baby from it&#8217;s womb for any other reason other than &#8220;it&#8217;s really time as labor has begun&#8221; doesn&#8217;t need to leave that womb! Big babies is a myth thought up by doctors. Small pelvies is another myth thought up by doctors to manipulate a natual birth and to make your birth sound scary and medical. </p>
<p>Birth is not scary when you understand it and take the time to learn about it from your peers who have BTDT as well as any other logical resource.</p>
<p>Babies just don&#8217;t normally come early or late unless a doctor is involved. (*yes there are exceptions)</p>
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		<title>By: Vicky</title>
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		<author>Vicky</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 00:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I heard an inspiring story from a doula friend.  She was talking with a client about a previous birth.  The client said, "They scheduled me for an induction, but I just didn't show up."  I almost burst into spontaneous applause :D.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard an inspiring story from a doula friend.  She was talking with a client about a previous birth.  The client said, &#8220;They scheduled me for an induction, but I just didn&#8217;t show up.&#8221;  I almost burst into spontaneous applause :D.</p>
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		<title>By: BJ</title>
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		<author>BJ</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 17:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Lyonside: the fear of what could have happened is what led my sister to have her C-section. Almost dead baby = scared out of her mind mother. She did switch OB's, though, to one who was up for whatever my sister wanted to do: surgery, homebirth, hospital birth, birth on the beach. The latter was what was supposed to happen the first time. But there were too many problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lyonside: the fear of what could have happened is what led my sister to have her C-section. Almost dead baby = scared out of her mind mother. She did switch OB&#8217;s, though, to one who was up for whatever my sister wanted to do: surgery, homebirth, hospital birth, birth on the beach. The latter was what was supposed to happen the first time. But there were too many problems.</p>
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		<title>By: mezzaluna</title>
		<link>http://www.thecowgoddess.com/2007/11/12/do-you-do-birthweight-research/#comment-2069</link>
		<author>mezzaluna</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2007 01:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>for as many differences as i had with my OBs in my first pregnancy, thanksgiving worked in my favor - i was due a couple days after thanksgiving, and had been getting some pressure for induction since 37 weeks due to high blood pressure, but as thanksgiving rolled around the OBs backed off on talking induction - let's wait and see how things are after thanksgiving, they said.  they didn't want to ruin their holiday with an induction.  so i realized that things weren't that serious or they wouldn't let thanksgiving dictate my medical care... so i kept putting off inductions... even scheduled a couple dates... canceled the first one, and went into labor before the second one... right at 41w.  baby was a nice 8lb14oz (not that size was ever mentioned as a reason to induce).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for as many differences as i had with my OBs in my first pregnancy, thanksgiving worked in my favor - i was due a couple days after thanksgiving, and had been getting some pressure for induction since 37 weeks due to high blood pressure, but as thanksgiving rolled around the OBs backed off on talking induction - let&#8217;s wait and see how things are after thanksgiving, they said.  they didn&#8217;t want to ruin their holiday with an induction.  so i realized that things weren&#8217;t that serious or they wouldn&#8217;t let thanksgiving dictate my medical care&#8230; so i kept putting off inductions&#8230; even scheduled a couple dates&#8230; canceled the first one, and went into labor before the second one&#8230; right at 41w.  baby was a nice 8lb14oz (not that size was ever mentioned as a reason to induce).</p>
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